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Telefonica in English Avoid at all costs
May 8, 2008 · All In One · 23 replies · 18252 views
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In January I made the mistake of using Telefonica in english.com to order my telephone line,
I know for a fact the the infastructure is in my street,
After several emails, and them taking 110? from my account, here we are 8th may and still no telephone line.
I have now emailed again asking for a full refund.
We will wait and see.
May 11, 2008 · jurdyr
could you tell me where you are please and i look in two for you
jurdy
May 11, 2008 · All In One
I am In La Herrada in Los Montesinos.
May 13, 2008 · Pieter Vos
What's the name of the company that charged you 110? ??
May 13, 2008 · All In One
The name of the company is Telephonica in English.com.
I have since found out that they are nothing to do with the real Telephonica.
There website allows you to order your telephone line from telephonica, but they charge you ?110.00 for the privelege.
May 13, 2008 · Pieter Vos
Never heard of this company. You can ask your phone line at any official distributor of telefonica or movistar.
I recomend also in general to signup only with oficial dealers or directly with the company (normally they have also own offices for public in cities). As a final tip, anyone who needs something from telefonica or movistar, if you call 1004 (telefonica) or 1486 (movistar), ask them for someone who speaks english, they have a team of english people staff.
You can always PM me if you need direct help or installation of phone line,dsl, etc.
Regards
Pieter Vos
May 14, 2008 · jurdyr
this comapny is not telefonica, and it looks like it?s some third party unoficial reseller yes i know telefonica are not the easy to deal with aswell
but try them ....
May 27, 2008 · All In One
Just to update you all,
On the 12th may 2008, I received an email from them stating that they have cancelled my application and would be giving me a full refund within 10 Days.
It's now the 27th and still no sign of the money.
May 29, 2008 · jurdyr
keep us filled in about what happens
jurdy
May 29, 2008 · foxbat
Hi,
Telefonicainenglish.com are indeed third party sales agents for telefonica. They promise a lot and then do virtually nothing. I had dealings with them between Nov2006 and Feb2007. Eventually when I spoke to Telefonica directly they stated that they had not received any order from me via telefonicainenglish. I cancelled the order with telefonicainenglish and they immediately refunded my 110 Euros. Get back onto them and demand immediate repayment. Threaten them with solicitors. They have a dreadful reputation for nonfulfillment of contracts with English customers.
Place your order directly with Telefonica using a mobile. Their number is 1004. Wait fo the second break in the recorded message, then say clearly 'English'
They will then transfer you to an English speaking sales agent. Usually best to do this after 2pm. When we did this our phone line was installed within three days although they do say that it may take up to 20 days. If you want or need ADSL ensure that the operator checks that ADSL is available at the location where the phone line is to be installed. We are out in the sticks and have to make do with rural ADSL which is a very slow version of ADSL (512Kbps) and yet costs the same as urban areas where the 3Mbps service is available.
Hope this helps.
Dont let telefonicainenglish push you around.
Good Luck
May 30, 2008 · jurdyr
foxbat do you have a bill from them still around ? as i love to know who this company used a front names TELEfoneinenglish ?
dose any one have a good word about them
Meet with the EU Commission for Communications Regulation in next few weeks and love to have a file over them as outher phone company in spain
i meet with few resalers and that all told me the problem be for sing up , as the law orders
so any help please
there is lot good companys out there try to run the phone comapny with problem for the big boys
but now the Eu been watching Espana for long time
hope in 2012 we many have some good company around
jurdy
May 30, 2008 · foxbat
Jurdy, Hi,
Regret no bills or accounts or written correspondence. All our communication was over the phone or, once the real Telefonica had installed our line, by email.
The website address is www.telefonicainenglish.com
I dont think its a scam; I believe that they do try to offer a service but they just dont try hard enough...
They claim on their website to have helped thousands of Brits get phones and lines installed, but I have never seen anyhting to indicate such success on this or any other expat forum...
Sorry cant help further...
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May 30, 2008 · jurdyr
i know the web site , think we all see it but what company name are that trading under ?
Jun 4, 2008 · Beacdaly
I also gave Telefonica in English 110 euro for a telephone line and 3 months later when they failed to do anything asked for a refund and Im still waiting although the refund was promised months ago. Do not deal with this company, go direct to Telefonica
Jun 4, 2008 · jurdyr
Telefonica in English ok was asked few things early on to day about this comapny , no one knows what trading name that run under as , there web site is not there trading name , any one know please
we not only the forum talking about them aswell
know not easy to get phone line in spain , internet tv and nie numbers
that spain
jurdy
Jun 4, 2008 · foxbat
Jurdy, Hi,
Just ran a whois check on telefonicainenglish.
Try this link...dont know if its any help...
http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/telefonicainenglish.com/
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Jun 4, 2008 · All In One
> I also gave Telefonica in English 110 euro for a telephone line and 3 months later when they failed to do anything asked for a refund and Im still waiting although the refund was promised months ago. Do not deal with this company, go direct to Telefonica
I was promised a refund within 10 days from the 12th may and heard nothing, I emailed a couple more times after the the 10 days was up, still nthing then 2 days ago I emailed and threatened them will solicitors and the police and today I have received my refund.
They stated in their last email they was unable to help me, as the infrastructure was not in place down my street, Which is utter crap as several of my Neighbours have telefonica lines.
I urge anyone not to let them get away with taken your money, keep pestering them, use as many forums as possible to expose them, and if needed threaten them with the authorites.
Jun 4, 2008 · jurdyr
thanks for the whos is who , uesd it a lot
any look there site To get the ball rolling, you need to apply for your telephone line by completing our application pages. It then usually takes upto 20 working days for a technician from Alca*** to contact you. (On some occassions customers receive a call from a technician that afternoon or the day after they placed their application.) The time it takes for a technician to contact you depends on how many applications they have in your area, how many technicians are available to install your line and how many ports are free in your central.
It then usually takes upto 20 working days for a technician from Alca*** to contact you now that 3 weeks 5 work days in a week
Administration charge 59 ? (One off charge) Installation Free of charge *
Then pay just 15,64 ? per month for your line rental All prices are subject to IVA.
* Telefonica English can only guarantee free installation when an order is processed solely by us.
where 110 euros coming for people
jurdy
Jun 4, 2008 · foxbat
Cant remember off hand but I think the 110 euro charge comes from an additional charge for people wanting ADSL as part of the package. Dont quote me on that; I could be wrong...
Jun 4, 2008 · All In One
This is there original email received 22/02/2008 4 weeks after originally ordering:-
Thank you for your application.
We will be debiting your bank account today for a one off administration charge of 68.44 Inc. IVA euros for your landline and 40.60 euros Inc. IVA for your adsl administration. (Please view Terms and Conditions.) Orders usually take approximately 10 to 20 working days provided that there is infrastructure and lines available in your area. If there are any problems with your order an operator will contact you.
The installation fee will only be debited once your line has been installed. (Which at this moment in time is free of charge.)
Thank you for your co-operation.
Emma Jones
TIE Customer Service Team
Then after emailing to complain about not receiving my line they sent an email on the 02/04/2008 they wrote:-
Good afternoon,
As you have heard nothing from a technician I will replace your order today and request for a new technician to get in touch with you as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Becky
TIE CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM
on the 12/05/2008 after demmanding my money back I got:-
Good afternoon,
Thank you for your email. Today I cancelled your application and you can expect a full refund within the next 10 working days. Please check your account periodically to verify.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Suzan
TELEFONICAINENGLISH.COM
Then on the 03/06/2008 after complaing 3 times about my lack of refund and threating with the police and solicitors I got:-
Good morning Mr Matthews,
We have today debited your bank account 0000 0000 00 0000000with the sum of 109.04 for the administration charge. We are sorry that we could not be of service to yourselves, due to lack of infrastructure and communication in your area. Please confirm that the bank account number is correct and the amount.
Thank you,
Regards
TIE.com
I immediatley Emailed back saying I hope you mean credited and not debited, Then this morning the money was back in my bank.
If anyone else is in the same position keep at them, dont give up
Good Luck
Jun 6, 2008 · All In One
> Telefonica in English ok was asked few things early on to day about this comapny , no one knows what trading name that run under as , there web site is not there trading name , any one know please
we not only the forum talking about them aswell
know not easy to get phone line in spain , internet tv and nie numbers
that spain
jurdy
Jurdy Just found the following on another forum while searching for something totally different:-
The web site you are referring to is not actually set up by Telefonica but by private enterprise "Victoria?s Call SL" of Benalmadena Costa who are acting as a sort of Agency.
Another site has the owner as one Antonio Machada.
Hope this helps
Jun 7, 2008 · Zozosgran
We just moved and I was tempted to go with telefonicainenglish but checked the prices against telefonica and telefonica was cheaper!!
So I phoned telefonica 1004 and kept saying IN ENGLISH every time there was a break in the talking and eventually was put through to an english speaking operator. I told them when we would be moving in and did not expect them for at least a week but a chap came round before we had got rid of the moving people - lol.
Still waiting for the password to be able to connect hubby's computer up but everything else seems OK.
ONLY 1 PROBLEM - DO NOT BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY TRY TO SELL YOU THE PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES TV. I refused it because I don't speak spanish so it was no use to me - OH ITS IN ENGLISH THE OPERATOR SAID - THERE ARE 2 CHANNELS IN ENGLISH!!! 1 of which is Sport the other is News. You can get the movies if they were originally filmed in English, if not they will be in the language they were made in!!
Fortunately the chap who came round to install the TV set up was English and explained this and did not set it up or get cross with us for his wasted visit!
But apart from the (please give me my password for the router number being ONLY in Spanish - so I have to hope that the letter will turn up or I can find someone who speaks Spanish and English so that I can ask them for the favour) ording directly from telefonica was a great success!
(Still trying to learn Spanish but I think I forget more than I learn - old age is so wonderful.........)
Jun 7, 2008 · jurdyr
if you get Digial + package 90% is in englishs just change the language setting on the remote
i fine the soap are out way befor the UK here in spain
any more ask and i fill you in
jurdy