Gitano - 22 February 2007 06:07 PM

silentbob - 22 February 2007 04:55 PM

Yeah, i’m from torrevieja and I have heard the same about the laws here. My friends and I often go to the beach and have a smoke. Speaking of which, does anyone know of someone who sells it?

you have got to be joking mate!!!

Theres always one isn’t there???!!!

Gitano - 22 February 2007 02:21 PM

jyeppers19 - 22 February 2007 10:02 AM

so is it really true about the HIV rate????

It is im affraid, not surprising in such a Catholic country really.

What has religion got to do with it?

Because they are not allowed to wear condoms which would stop the spread of the disease

sonictombstone - 31 March 2008 01:56 AM

Because they are not allowed to wear condoms which would stop the spread of the disease

well if you waer a Child sexual abuse it will help in lot off ways from e diseas, go to the who link is http://www.who.int/ and look it up
the Catholic do not want you to waer a
...... and lot diseas are run the mill , and from what happen to the church with sex Child sexual abuse ... would ask you hows right , sorry ant the church ....... condoms do help in ways from sex to gay sex bi are what every

Church Catholic Churches are wrong and thay know it but wont let on Catholic .priest tock kids who where n truble and did there best to fuck up there lifes , us kids that are now adult are paying for it while Government help this peter files gsorry be t it happen et way for what thay did

condom do help from spread sexually transmitted infections (STIs) of the Erasmus Medisch Centrum Rotterdam (Erasmus Medical Centre in Rotterdam) in the Netherlands reported 16 cases of infectious syphilis (six primary and 10 secondary cases), compared with four cases in the first half of 2001 and six cases in the whole of 2000

want ot fight on this one , no problem ...... i will ,

Why would I want to fight? All I said was that condoms stop the spread of the disease and the Catholic church didn’t allow their people to wear them. I didn’t say I thought they were right.

I’m certainly not going to defend or apologise for Catholicism in Spain or anywhere else, but the high prevalance of HIV in Southern Europe is nothing much to do with the Church - it’s down to needle-sharing amongst intravenous drug users.  51% of heroin users in Barcelona are positive, which is much higher even than here in Glasgow, where there is a worse heroin problem, but better distribution of clean needles. Only about a quarter of HIV cases in Spain have been contracted through heterosexual sex - which is the area, if I understand the situation correctly, where the attitudes of the Church might have made a difference either way. Condoms are freely available in all the Catholic countries with a high HIV rate (Spain, Italy, France etc.).  It just so happens that these countries also have a lot of needle-sharing amongst junkies. It’s true, I’ll accept, that many Catholic men sleep with heroin-using prostitutes and then have unprotected sex with their wives, but if this is a significant means of transmission, then it’s not born out by the statistics.

I’m always up for criticising the Church - for their politics, and of course because the religion itself is complete nonsense.  I just don’t think it’s their fault on this one.

“The sad flip side to this is that it has the highest HIV figures in Europe.”

Does that have anything to do with Marijuana usage? From your post it sounds like it does lol.

Marcosll - 04 April 2008 01:01 PM

“The sad flip side to this is that it has the highest HIV figures in Europe.”

Does that have anything to do with Marijuana usage? From your post it sounds like it does lol.

Ah, that’s the beauty of forum threads, they go off in all kinds of directions.  I don’t think that anyone’s saying you can get HIV from a spliff.  However, small quantities of heroin for personal use are also permissable in Spain under the same legal framework, I believe, and some would argue that’s contributed to the HIV epidemic from injecting.  I don’t agree, as we have a worse smack problem in some countries where it’s definitely not permissable, but I assume that’s what this contributor is getting at.

Marcosll - 04 April 2008 01:01 PM

“The sad flip side to this is that it has the highest HIV figures in Europe.”

Does that have anything to do with Marijuana usage? From your post it sounds like it does lol.

Nope, it doesn’t, but it does have a lot to do with injectable drug use, and that’s what I was trying to hi light.

it isnt a good idea to have any type of drug on you but if ure carefull and dont take the piis its fine on the beach or in a park where there arent many people or guardia civil. its not a good idea to sit opposite your local cop shop with an 18 inch reefer hangin out your mouth whilst your mates rollin a blunt.