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Posted: 21 May 2009 08:43 PM |
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Tourist
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Joined 2009-05-21
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Hola @ todos,
I?ve been happily in Spain for about 14 months now and it is time for me to return to the US. Bad news: I?ve been here illegally (I came on a tourist visa and never left). Any advice on how to get out of here without being detained or arrested at the airport? Has anyone else been in a similar situation? How did you work it out? A friend of mine said an option is to go to the american embassy and admit that I?ve been illegal, pay a fine, adn they give me an exit certificate. I only have 1 stamp on my passport and it?s from when I entered Spain. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
EmbraceLife
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Posted: 21 May 2009 11:43 PM |
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Expatriator
Total Posts: 550
Joined 2008-09-12
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My Advise is to go to the US Embassy…
If your caught at customs (When you go to your Plane Gate) you be detained and questioned and have Sticker across your passport… Possible Court Case all depends how long you over stayed and if they can prove you worked…
As you have no Visa your now classed as Illegal Immigrant… This means any health insurances etc are invalid!
Mac
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Posted: 21 May 2009 11:48 PM |
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Administrator
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get in touch with your http://www.embusa.es/ Usa Embassy of the U.S. that may know what to do ... the law here is been in force , with big fines ....
Did you know over staying you holiday visa in the usa , 1 you fined 2 it stamped all over you passport and may hea you travel to outher places ...
3 You add to the terrorism lists
new law on immigration in spain , EU are been pasted soon ....
jurdy
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:06 AM |
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Tourist
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Joined 2009-05-22
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I’m a U.S, citizen. If I have no stamp in my passport showing I ever entered Spain, is there any other way at the airport they can find out I have been in the country? I have been “registered” at various ports in Spain, having arrived by private boat, but I have no stamps in my passport.
And I am about to be registered as a resident in Spain, will that make any difference? I read somewhere on the site it won’t, but I’m just making sure.
Thanks….
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:15 AM |
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Expatriator
Total Posts: 550
Joined 2008-09-12
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mmmmmmmm not sure…....
I like the term “PRIVATE BOAT” that gives me so many thoughts of how you came in 😉
But if your going to be Registerd in Spain…. Gives me questions on how that will be done…. as I am sure the Authoritys look at Visas Stamps so on on your passport?
Spains authoritys at the moment are Detaining people without the correct paper work and sending people back on a plane very quickly…. Also now All of the EU US so on that are members of Interpol Inform them of your offence and its marked on a register for 5 years for your criminal act….
Also you get a nice shiny Red and Green Sticker with Your offence stuck inside your passport….
If you enquire with your Countrys Embassy they will tell you the same thing…
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:24 AM |
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Tourist
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Joined 2009-05-22
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It was a yacht, I was cruising around the Med!
I have no visa’s or stamps in my passport except for when I flew into Frankfurt, originally. IT’S THE ONLY STAMP ON MY PASSPORT and it was almost 90 days ago. Since then, I’ve been in and out of ports in Italy, France and Spain over a period of several weeks, but I have NO stamps or visas at all….only thing is in SOME but not all ports, they ask for your passports and go off and do SOMETHING with them, I don’t know what??
I am about to get the Certificate of residence in Ibiza where I want to stay for a while. So technically by looking at my passport you can’t tell I ever entered Spain at all. That’s why I was asking, is there some other record they check, or do they just look in your passport for entry stamps? In which case, I have none, for Spain…...
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:30 AM |
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Expatriator
Total Posts: 550
Joined 2008-09-12
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I would Advise you to make enquires….. As For sure if you do get stopped (Example) I am sure the police etc would answer questions on how you entered…. for instance if you only have a stamp from Germany there going to ask how on earth you got here…. However if the Ibizia authoritys didnt ask questions why fix something thats not broken?
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:36 AM |
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Tourist
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Joined 2009-05-22
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I was thinking the same thing….technically I could stay here indefinitely at this rate? And only when I leave here and go to another EU country will it then be documented and from THEN I have 90 days from THAT point that I have to worry?
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Posted: 22 May 2009 01:48 AM |
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Expatriator
Total Posts: 550
Joined 2008-09-12
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Well just be warned…. Spain is good at the “2nd Time Round” if they do not spot the problem the 1st time they get you the 2nd…
Example my neighbour in Salou from Canada stayed 5 months over his visa he went out… Guardia Civil doing a patrol neighbour got caught… With you they have your paper work in Ibiza for your registration so it could be a matter of time…
Good Luck…
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Posted: 22 May 2009 03:34 AM |
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Administrator
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Get cought and you Fecked , cop have been spotchqs areound the place .... and its you that need to prove you comings and goings out spain ..... your photos at all Eu airports .... your coming and goings .... police trade INFO across Eu zone now adays ... think we better off the Usa ... we got more CCTV Camera in Eu the any where in the world ...
Up to you to prove ... when cought
jurdy
ps you wont beable to trael for 10 yars , pay fines and so on ....
again get on to the Usa Embassy
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Posted: 29 May 2009 07:24 AM |
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Just Landed
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Joined 2009-03-02
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Jurdy, you have such great colourful language for a fecking moderator, although truth be told, sometimes i can?t understand any of your abbreviations.
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Posted: 29 May 2009 07:27 AM |
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Just Landed
Total Posts: 14
Joined 2009-03-02
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To the original poster, i?ve never heard of airport checks of you passport - as in proper thorough where have you been and when etc, when you LEAVE a country. At that point in time the horse has bolted so the authorities do not care…
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Posted: 29 May 2009 06:47 PM |
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Expatriator
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Joined 2007-11-01
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hsan..
Good luck to you if you are able to flit here and there about Europe as you flew into Germany then went onwards by private yacht from thereon.
I remember from my days of Bluewater saling - ok not Europe.. but possibly same applies here as in further flung parts?
I understood that even a boat coming from Britain to France had to fly the yellow customs flag, go and see customs/immigration as soon as their office was open (and no one allowed off the boat until then)... and all legal paperwork would be completed.
Usually this meant them seeing all passports and the crew list and taking copies etc.
Where required, we also had to have local visas. Some were time limited, but could be renewed.
To be totally legal I guess you would have to either go back to the yacht you came in on and see if they completed correctly the above - or if you are in Ibiza? (or was it Majorca - sorry - I have short term memory loss 😉 - I know there are lots of crewing agencies there and they should know the answer.
Otherwise, you will have to take a chance and contact your embasy from your Country of Origin and see what the rules are. But then you may have blown your chances to stay if you have over-stayed - if you know what I mean.
Good luck to you. But do be careful in these times of fear and ever tightening secutiry in the name of ‘Terrorism Acts’.
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Posted: 29 May 2009 11:12 PM |
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Feck (irish word ) is not bad word ....... now F**K is
point 2 ....To the original poster, i?ve never heard of airport checks of you passport - as in proper thorough where have you been and when etc, when you LEAVE a country. At that point in time the horse has bolted so the authorities do not care?
Yes its done by the Airlines ...now aday and that pass any the INFO to police and so on
was stopped in spain entrening last time as flowen to Germany and then travel by road to Ireland and then flow back two spain ....
Was shipping some that need to be DECLARABLE GOODS at customs (unit was locked up and only one had the key two it )
that ask why flow in two germany but didnt fly out ?
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Posted: 30 May 2009 04:53 PM |
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Just Landed
Total Posts: 14
Joined 2009-03-02
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Again Jurdy, I don?t understand your post.
You went to Germany and what happened? Were you checked on the way out or not? You?ve quoted my comment but i don?t see the connection.
My point was that you don?t get checked on the way out of Spain. Have you or anyone else been checked on the way OUT of Spain? Was the flight to an EU or non-EU country? I have been checked on the way OUT of the UK several times, where there immigration laws have been much stricter post London bombings, but never here.
I have very occassionally been checked leaving other EU countries as well, I believe they have a responsibility to do so, but in three years of living in Spain - this has never happened to me HERE. The authorities just don?t appear interested. I?ve heard some stories now of people being asked questions on their return to Spain, but again… never on the way OUT.
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Posted: 15 July 2009 06:24 AM |
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Tourist
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Joined 2009-07-12
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Any update on this? Curious to see if people have been getting checked out while leaving Spain via commercial airlines.
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