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Posted: 16 July 2009 06:59 AM   [ # 16 ]  
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ohhh thanh aritz for the info. yeah good that u mentioned the passport thing. actually the reason for me to go to spain is to study spanish language.i may stay there for 6 months to a year. so what kind of visa shall i have?it seems that the residence visa is not possible coz it may take long. i plan to go there asap. i thought just by submitting our marriage cert fr nso, that would suffice for the residence visa.

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Posted: 16 July 2009 10:50 AM   [ # 17 ]  
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hi keikei,
there may be other options like:
1 a student visa -you will need to be very rich or get a scholarship
2 a b?squeda de empleo visa or even a spanish citizenship - if you have a spanish born grandparent.
you can study spanish there while waiting really for the libro de familia but you should really ask the consulate.

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Posted: 18 July 2009 12:22 PM   [ # 18 ]  
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Who of you can explain me more about granting Spanish citizenship in Philippines?
I live in Australia, but i am European origin, and want to move back to the UK with my gf/future wife. She lives in Philippines, but her grandfather is a Spaniard, and grandmother French, they had a daughter borne in Spain, she is my gf’s mother so she should be Spanish citizen, and as a little girl moved with parents from Spain to Philippines, then my girlfriend was borne there but not registered in Spanish Embassy. Now we seek any information how to get Spanish citizenship and passport for her. I hold EU passport so no problem to return to the UK and live there but she has not. Now we need to find any informations how to process her citizenship application, where, cost of processing and any documents required. I am sure that her mother’s birth certificate will be required, but unsure in Spanish embassy can help us to find it out in Spain, or we need to go there and find it in Spain. My girlfriend’s parents are divorced and she hasn’t any contact with them so we don’t know when and where her mother was borne in Spain.
Who did all process, please let me know about the details, the most important is time of waiting for citizenship.

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Posted: 18 July 2009 01:42 PM   [ # 19 ]  
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conrad,
if someone who is not a spanish citizen but has one parent who was born in spain and is a spanish citizen, can get his/her spanish citizenship by getting registered at the spanish embassy (they will inform you what they need). once she gets a copy of the spanish birth certificate, she can be issued a spanish passport (could be provisional), she travels then to spain to get a regular passport after getting her dni and ss number.

if she does not know when and where her mother was born in spain, i think she meant she does not know where. she should at least know her birth date.
the spanish embassy may have data on her mom, just tell them her name and two last names.

i suggest she takes spanish lessons while waiting because as a spaniard she would be talked to in spanish when she enters spain and all the documentation are in spanish.

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Posted: 18 July 2009 03:03 PM   [ # 20 ]  
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Thanks

But if you can tell me what spanish embassy may want, any documents? I emailed spanish consulates in Australia where i live and got one email asking me for my address to sent me some papers about it, and weeks passed since they got my post address and i didn’t get anything, i emailed them again and dind’t get any response. My gf goes soon to her grandparents but they are old and sick and difficult to get any informations from them, we wil see what can we find.
I see now economical situation in Australia is not good, still miss the UK, want to back there, as can find a job easier there in my profession as a EU passport holder can go there even now, but she has no EU passport so we try to get Spanish or French one, then would be easy. But how long and process may take t get Spanish citizenship for her? If would be possible to do all without travel to Spain to find documents related with her grandparents marriage and her mother birth. Also i am not sure Spanish law, her mother and grandfather may have lost Spanish citizenship if they acquired Philippino citizenship, then my gf was borne as only Philipino citizen.  I would like to knwo what documents are required, time to process all paperwork, and costs to do it all.
Spanish language - well, she lives close to Cagayan de Oro, unsure is spanish language is spoken there, she understand a bit, me too, I liked Spanish language and learnt many years ago, was in Spain and Central America so can understand spoken and written but as I haven’t spoken for many years, living in english speaking countries so have some problems to speak.
What is required to get these numbers, tax number etc in Spain, and also how long it takes to get spanish passport then?

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Posted: 18 July 2009 04:38 PM   [ # 21 ]  
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conrad,
your gf can get a filipino birth certificate from nso because there would be a notation there about her mother’s citizenship.
if her spanish grandfather or french grandmother were eventually naturalized, there would be documents somewhere or with the spanish consulate in manila,  the grandfather can recover his spanish citizenship easily.  his old passport would be just renewed.

she should get her mother’s birth certificate, if she knows place and birthdate most probably madrid, no problem, you can get it online, no costs.

call or contact the consulate of spain in manila, check this http://www.maec.es/subwebs/Consulados/Manila/en/home/Paginas/Home.aspx

you can also call the honorary consul in cebu (nearer cagayan de oro) Consulado en Ceb? Consul Honorario de Espa?a en Ceb?, D. Jaime Picornell Rodr?guez, 
47-g molave street. Lahug. Ceb? City - tel?fono 032.311.329.

as long as you know the names and last names (birth names) birthplaces and birthplace, the only cost would be mailing.  and the cost any embassy would charge for passport issuance.

i do not understand the haste. remember haste makes waste.

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Posted: 19 July 2009 03:46 AM   [ # 22 ]  
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Spanish “maniania” is worse waste than haste.

I have few ways, and must choose the best one, fastest, and cheapest. Examples:
1. I can apply for australian spouse visa, it costs about 3000$ and may take up to one year. My friend did it, it took him about 10 months waiting, and almost 10000$ spent for her wife migration, but he used migration agent to do all paperwork. I don’t see any sense t waste so much money if I plan to move back to the UK, then australian visa would be lost. Living for some time in Australia we can apply for EEA family permit, but it is complicated, also waste of time and she might be refused. So I prefer other ways:
2. Her Spanish or French origin, on these passport she can enter the UK easy, but if she needs to wait e.g. 5 years for spanish passport, it makes no sense.

I have limited time, max one year and want to be back to the UK, no more so we must find the fastest way to do it all as migration law in each country changes for worse, costs are higher, and more paperwork. UK announced to stop migration, cut numbers of migrants, so I don’t want to wait more for worse rules.

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Posted: 19 July 2009 02:26 PM   [ # 23 ]  
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conrad,
i suppose the maximum time for her is 6 months. that is if her grandfather (who is still living) is really a spaniard born in spain and so was her mother. the only thing she has to do is prove it.  she will find her mother’s birthplace and age (maybe birthdate, too) in her filipino birth certificate.

but come on, not knowing her mother’s birthday and birthplace?  although she can ask her grandpa and grandpa, where and when. she can also ask her dad. you said they are divorced. you may mean separated, or marriage annulled. there is no such thing as divorced in the philippines. if they were also married, in the marriage certificate you can find her mom’s birthdate and birthplace.

filipino birth certificates and marriage certificates are so affordable and you can get them in a matter of days, maximum 3 weeks, if data given are correct or if they really exist.

once she knows her moms birthdate and birthplace, she can even apply online or get the certificate thru spanish embassy. she should receive it in a few weeks.

now, having her nso issued filipino birth certificate plus her mom’s birth certificate plus her spanish grandpa, they can go to manila and have her registered as a spaniard, she could be even given a provisional passport, free to travel anywhere without a visa.

have you contacted the spanish consulate?

below you can find the website regarding filipino certificates.
http://www.census.gov.ph/data/civilreg/index.html
https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Secure/frmIndex.asp

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Posted: 06 August 2009 11:15 PM   [ # 24 ]  
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Hi

Im a filipino currently studying in China, im planning to work in Spain once i finish my studies.
I just have a few questions about obtaining a Spanish citizenship.
If i apply for a Spanish citizenship, do i have to renounce my Filipino citizenship?
How long does one wait for the citizenship? How long from the date i submit the application? What are the other documents i need
to prepare aside from the birth certificate, passport, etc.
Will they provide both the passport and id card right after the approval of the application?

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Posted: 07 August 2009 12:24 AM   [ # 25 ]  
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larsxie,
filipinos who acquire spanish citizenship are not required to renounce their filipino citizenship.
when you apply for spanish citizenship, depending on your circumstances, it can take a few weeks to 2 years and a half to get approval.
when you get approval, depending on your circumstances, it can take a few weeks to a year to have your spanish birth certificate.
when you get your spanish birth certificate, it can take 30 minutes to an hour to get your passport and id.

what are your circumstances?

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Posted: 07 August 2009 09:07 AM   [ # 26 ]  
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wow, a few weeks to two years?
im planning to get an internship, then get a proper work after that.
do you think it will take longer for me? what are the specific requirements?
will they require me to show them a proof of income, those kind of certificates?
and, i heard that the id card will be different from the real spanish id card? or will it be the same?

thanks a lot 😊


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Posted: 07 August 2009 10:31 AM   [ # 27 ]  
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lars,
were you born in spain?
are you married to a spanish citizen?
do you have a spanish born grandparent?
what kind of visa are you applying for: student or residence?

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Posted: 07 August 2009 12:03 PM   [ # 28 ]  
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Hi

Im not born in spain, not married, and also none of my relatives are spanish.
i want to apply for a citizenship thru residency.
from what i know its 2 years of legal residency for filipino applicants, only then i can apply for a citizenship.
do you have any idea how long will the wait be? from the submission date?
im applying for the residence, since i am looking for a job in Spain.
how about you? what were you circumstances then?
thanks a lot for the help

Lars

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Posted: 07 August 2009 11:12 PM   [ # 29 ]  
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larsxie,

after submitting the application as legal resident for 2 years., you get the approval after 2 to 2.5 years. and another 6 months to a year to have your spanish birth certificate registered. this may be faster by the time you apply.  once you get this you can get the passport and id in an hour or so.

i came with a student visa. after 3 years there was an amnesty. i changed it to a resident and work permit.

good luck on your application.

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Posted: 08 August 2009 07:13 AM   [ # 30 ]  
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oh i see.
thats a bit long then.
so thats a total of 4-5years? is it? 2years of residency + approval 2yrs approx then 6 months for the processing of the
birth certificate? how long did it take yours? from your application date?
and i also wanted to ask, do you know the official website where i can find exact details, requirements for the citizenship?
ive checked ministerio de justicia, but its all in spanish, im still working on my spanish. haha
and, the 2 years residency, it has to be uninterrupted 2 straight years, right? or, it doesnt matter if i leave spain, as long as the
total time i spent in spain is 2 years?

sorry i ask a lot of questions, i really appreciate the help. 😊
thanks a lot

LARS

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