Why would any non EU citizen come to live in Spain?
Posted: 12 June 2010 09:16 PM  
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Here is the short version of my and my son’s experience in trying to get his Russian girlfriend residence in Spain, the version that doesn’t involve the easy route of getting married!

My sons girlfriend was brought to Spain 6 years ago by her mother (she had no choice) as she was underage, they came on a schengen visa which expired whilst they were here. Years later she met my son and they have been going out for 3 years and 18 months ago decided to get her legal in Spain (haha).

The legal route (farce) involved taking 4 months aquiring paperwork from her home country (Russia doesn’t like giving this easily), then having a job offer here in spain, then submitting all the paperwork to the immigration department which is manned by incompetent retards.

They accepted all the paperwork as it was all in perfect order, they then say the process of administering it will take upto 3 months (Spanish 3 months = 1 year+). After endless trips to the immigration department having waited 8 months we find out that the paper which was obtain from my local town hall (stating she actually lives here), should have been submitted by the townhall itself and not by hand from us, the townhall knew this apparently, but still gave it us. Therefore, this had to be obtained again from the townhall, it took the town hall 4 months to submit this paper to the immigration department. Several more months later we are informed that all the paperwork is out of date and the job offer expired, solely because of the racist bitch at the townhall.

In other words several thousand euros of paperwork is now fit only for the dustbin! She could not obtain any more job offers as most companies are now either not employing or have gone bust! Sign of a crap run country I believe.

The only solution to this scenario was to obtain a work contract from a third party in which they have to supply their previous tax declarations and have a minimum of 30,000 euros in their bank at all times. Yeah this is going to happen, who in their right mind is going to go to this trouble for anyone thesedays.

They have, after all the aggravation, decided that Spain is a backward (retarded) country that imposes impossible conditions upon potential immigrants for the sole purpose of extracting their money from them. My son chose to leave Spain immediately after this decision, in order to pave the way forward elsewhere.

I feel so pissed about this I have relocated my business out of Spain to another forward thinking country in Europe, the result of which saw 24 Spaniards lose their jobs because of their governments spiteful attitude. And mine in return because of what they did (an eye for an eye).

The new business has been running now in the other EU country for 3 months, in that time I have managed to setup this business, employ a dozen staff, get her legal and resident. She now contributes tax to her new country. What a sad state of affairs that Spain, which is so far in the crap that it needs to rip off immigrants. Well I can say that Spain just lost a hell of a lot more than they screwed her out of!

Spain needs to be thrown out of the EU, all they do is take and contribute nothing.

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Posted: 13 June 2010 05:56 PM   [ # 1 ]  
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cbram,
which country did the russian girl finally got her residency? how?

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Posted: 14 June 2010 03:00 AM   [ # 2 ]  
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Hey cbram,
Not sure if this helps, but indeed there are a lot of countries with very difficult, dare I say, xenophobic immigration policies. Trust me, the US is seriously f’d up. France is too. Japan is practically impossible to crack permanently (and they’re more xenophobic than any other country I know of). Australia has very challenging immigration policies and provides typically catch 22 opportunities at every turn. My Canadian Uncle has married two girls in his lifetime to help them stay in Canada.

Spain is, like the above named countries, a place with a recognized problem with immigration in that the locals don’t believe it’s desirable on a large scale. Spaniards see the problems with masses of El Salvadorians and Moroccans and make their policies based on these much more visible and affecting nationalities.

Russians are notorious for being difficult to get into any country too. Their government stinks of corruption and everyone who leaves is thought to be either undesirable, mafia, or a spy.

Finally, I’ll point out that if you have a business in which you could have sponsored her visa, why didn’t you do so? You should have had the power to get her a work visa, no?

Really don’t mean to be so unsympathetic but I wanted to balance out the negativity. 😊 I really am sympathetic, but I’ve been steeled by dealing with immigration issues in multiple countries over the last 6 years.

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Posted: 14 June 2010 03:31 AM   [ # 3 ]  
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Did you have a decent lawyer? I just finished the visa/arraigo process and it took about 10 months in total and a lot of hassle but I would have completely failed if I didn’t have a quality lawyer who knew what they were doing and made sure that everything happened. If a form expired (or could expire) she told me to wait to apply for it or we got an extension. I’ve Russian friends who’ve had plenty of trouble getting a visa here but not from the Spanish govt. but from the Russian govt.

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Posted: 19 June 2010 05:21 PM   [ # 4 ]  
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why did she not apply for the amnesty several years back? She and her mother could have done it easily.

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